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> <channel><title>Comments on: Will Photographing Same-Sex Ceremonies Hurt or Help Your Wedding Photography Business?</title> <atom:link href="http://rising.blackstar.com/will-photographing-same-sex-unions-hurt-or-help-your-wedding-photography-busi.html/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://rising.blackstar.com/will-photographing-same-sex-unions-hurt-or-help-your-wedding-photography-busi.html</link> <description>Professional Photography Blog</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 23:56:37 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Gardner Hamilton</title><link>http://rising.blackstar.com/will-photographing-same-sex-unions-hurt-or-help-your-wedding-photography-busi.html/comment-page-2#comment-66067</link> <dc:creator>Gardner Hamilton</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 14:52:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">#comment-66067</guid> <description>if your not willing to shoot Gay Weddings then you should advertise as a Hetrosexual Wedding Photographer, if you only shoot Gay waddings then you should advertise as a Gay Wedding Photographer...personally Im a Wedding Photographer..I photograph WEDDINGS...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if your not willing to shoot Gay Weddings then you should advertise as a Hetrosexual Wedding Photographer, if you only shoot Gay waddings then you should advertise as a Gay Wedding Photographer...personally Im a Wedding Photographer..I photograph WEDDINGS...</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Sandra</title><link>http://rising.blackstar.com/will-photographing-same-sex-unions-hurt-or-help-your-wedding-photography-busi.html/comment-page-2#comment-66047</link> <dc:creator>Sandra</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2012 23:53:10 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">#comment-66047</guid> <description>I just booked my first same-sex wedding.
I didn&#039;t bat an eye.
It&#039;s for my friend.
I&#039;m a small town photographer who gets my referrals from friends, and I go to a very conservative church.
I don&#039;t let others dictate what I do- perhaps if I did, I might not have my friend at all, and he&#039;s been one of the most amazing supportive people in my life.  Why WOULDN&#039;T I photograph his wedding... or the friends who may be referred to me as a result.
It&#039;s not ever my job to judge- and if other customers don&#039;t like it...well then, perhaps they are not the customers I want anyway.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just booked my first same-sex wedding.<br
/> I didn't bat an eye.<br
/> It's for my friend.<br
/> I'm a small town photographer who gets my referrals from friends, and I go to a very conservative church.<br
/> I don't let others dictate what I do- perhaps if I did, I might not have my friend at all, and he's been one of the most amazing supportive people in my life.  Why WOULDN'T I photograph his wedding... or the friends who may be referred to me as a result.<br
/> It's not ever my job to judge- and if other customers don't like it...well then, perhaps they are not the customers I want anyway.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Metronomic</title><link>http://rising.blackstar.com/will-photographing-same-sex-unions-hurt-or-help-your-wedding-photography-busi.html/comment-page-2#comment-66034</link> <dc:creator>Metronomic</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2012 04:19:53 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">#comment-66034</guid> <description>If you refuse to shoot a wedding based on a couple&#039;s sexual orientation, prepare to get your bigoted *ss sued. And you WILL lose. Homophobia, whether cultural or religious based is unacceptable in our society and indeed the wedding industry as a whole.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you refuse to shoot a wedding based on a couple's sexual orientation, prepare to get your bigoted *ss sued. And you WILL lose. Homophobia, whether cultural or religious based is unacceptable in our society and indeed the wedding industry as a whole.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Andrew Barre</title><link>http://rising.blackstar.com/will-photographing-same-sex-unions-hurt-or-help-your-wedding-photography-busi.html/comment-page-2#comment-63852</link> <dc:creator>Andrew Barre</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2011 17:42:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">#comment-63852</guid> <description>I have my first same sex wedding to shoot in a few weeks and I never thought anything but &quot;great something different&quot;!
Go for it I say, business is business and It&#039;s about time the world grew up!!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have my first same sex wedding to shoot in a few weeks and I never thought anything but "great something different"!<br
/> Go for it I say, business is business and It's about time the world grew up!!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: J.Oliviero</title><link>http://rising.blackstar.com/will-photographing-same-sex-unions-hurt-or-help-your-wedding-photography-busi.html/comment-page-2#comment-63632</link> <dc:creator>J.Oliviero</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 18:52:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">#comment-63632</guid> <description>I am a musician and I perform at weddings concerts and other events. I received a request to play at a wedding ceremony which I assumed was a man and a woman since the event planner never ever stated otherwise 2 days later I received an email which stated the 2 GROOMS, My group does not perform at same sex weddings when I emailed the event planner stating this she was outraged and basically lied that she told me, she never did. I presented that fact to her whith all the emails. She was abusive and nasty. I was polite and just stated she should have let me know fropm the on set. I have a right to not play at a same sex wedding. I am Catholic and I do not believe that 2 men or 2 woman are a couple I have a right to my belief system. Her behavior was very disgusting and highley un-professional. I must add that my best friend was gay I also cared for his friend who was very ill. I have no hatred towards anyone individually what shocks me is that My friend w respected my beliefs as I respected his. The NAZI STALIN tactics used by these so called progressives is very disturbing.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a musician and I perform at weddings concerts and other events. I received a request to play at a wedding ceremony which I assumed was a man and a woman since the event planner never ever stated otherwise 2 days later I received an email which stated the 2 GROOMS, My group does not perform at same sex weddings when I emailed the event planner stating this she was outraged and basically lied that she told me, she never did. I presented that fact to her whith all the emails. She was abusive and nasty. I was polite and just stated she should have let me know fropm the on set. I have a right to not play at a same sex wedding. I am Catholic and I do not believe that 2 men or 2 woman are a couple I have a right to my belief system. Her behavior was very disgusting and highley un-professional. I must add that my best friend was gay I also cared for his friend who was very ill. I have no hatred towards anyone individually what shocks me is that My friend w respected my beliefs as I respected his. The NAZI STALIN tactics used by these so called progressives is very disturbing.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Al</title><link>http://rising.blackstar.com/will-photographing-same-sex-unions-hurt-or-help-your-wedding-photography-busi.html/comment-page-2#comment-62337</link> <dc:creator>Al</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2011 16:43:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">#comment-62337</guid> <description>Um, wow. I agree with Jeffery. And most important. Gardener Hamilton, I know your not religious. But do you believe in god? I do. But most importantly you are absolutely correct mr Hamilton. We live in a world with moving molecules doing and making their own moves. Regardless of wether another bumped into them. Some die. It&#039;s a part of life. And we are just people amongst people. I don&#039;t think anyone should provoke your opinions. If the person that posted this wasn&#039;t concerned about it in the first place this would never have been posted here. They would have posted something in their conservative church board or paper saying something on conservative lines. I could be wrong on my assumption. However, neil. There are animals that take on the care of other types of animals. It&#039;s been caught on video. Monkeys taking care of children etc. And I think that&#039;s something called love. To honor, cherish, perhaps until death? It doesn&#039;t have to be called marriage. But it is unity. Mr Hamilton I believe was trying to be nice but mr Neil you like to blow things out of proportion. Just remember, be simple and love those around you. Don&#039;t worry about writing small print. Life is wonderful and how amazing is it to record such special moments of peace and love. Thank you all for listening. Mr Hamilton, you are very humble, sincere, and intelligent. You are here for a special purpose. I hope we can inform each other with our emails but I&#039;m afraid of anyone knowing what they are on here. Maybe we can make an artificial email to share info. God bless and allow love please.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, wow. I agree with Jeffery. And most important. Gardener Hamilton, I know your not religious. But do you believe in god? I do. But most importantly you are absolutely correct mr Hamilton. We live in a world with moving molecules doing and making their own moves. Regardless of wether another bumped into them. Some die. It's a part of life. And we are just people amongst people. I don't think anyone should provoke your opinions. If the person that posted this wasn't concerned about it in the first place this would never have been posted here. They would have posted something in their conservative church board or paper saying something on conservative lines. I could be wrong on my assumption. However, neil. There are animals that take on the care of other types of animals. It's been caught on video. Monkeys taking care of children etc. And I think that's something called love. To honor, cherish, perhaps until death? It doesn't have to be called marriage. But it is unity. Mr Hamilton I believe was trying to be nice but mr Neil you like to blow things out of proportion. Just remember, be simple and love those around you. Don't worry about writing small print. Life is wonderful and how amazing is it to record such special moments of peace and love. Thank you all for listening. Mr Hamilton, you are very humble, sincere, and intelligent. You are here for a special purpose. I hope we can inform each other with our emails but I'm afraid of anyone knowing what they are on here. Maybe we can make an artificial email to share info. God bless and allow love please.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Gardner Hamilton</title><link>http://rising.blackstar.com/will-photographing-same-sex-unions-hurt-or-help-your-wedding-photography-busi.html/comment-page-2#comment-62056</link> <dc:creator>Gardner Hamilton</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 16:18:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">#comment-62056</guid> <description>@ Neil, I will gladly buy your equipment at a reduced rate when you shut your so called business.. UNREAL!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Neil, I will gladly buy your equipment at a reduced rate when you shut your so called business.. UNREAL!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: cheryl</title><link>http://rising.blackstar.com/will-photographing-same-sex-unions-hurt-or-help-your-wedding-photography-busi.html/comment-page-2#comment-62048</link> <dc:creator>cheryl</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2011 23:37:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">#comment-62048</guid> <description>Hello... If I was a couple seeking a photographer and their response was what was quoted above, I&#039;d move on and say, next... as there are plenty of photographers who would gladly photography their love... the quote is at least honest... not a hate response, nor a response worth litigation either... just move on.. and don&#039;t take it personally.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello... If I was a couple seeking a photographer and their response was what was quoted above, I'd move on and say, next... as there are plenty of photographers who would gladly photography their love... the quote is at least honest... not a hate response, nor a response worth litigation either... just move on.. and don't take it personally.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Gardner Hamilton</title><link>http://rising.blackstar.com/will-photographing-same-sex-unions-hurt-or-help-your-wedding-photography-busi.html/comment-page-2#comment-61560</link> <dc:creator>Gardner Hamilton</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 14:25:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">#comment-61560</guid> <description>anyone who lets there clients dictate what the photographer ( the artist and business person ) decides to photograph and publish should find another career path...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anyone who lets there clients dictate what the photographer ( the artist and business person ) decides to photograph and publish should find another career path...</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jeffrey</title><link>http://rising.blackstar.com/will-photographing-same-sex-unions-hurt-or-help-your-wedding-photography-busi.html/comment-page-2#comment-61555</link> <dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 04:58:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">#comment-61555</guid> <description>This post is offensive.  Are we in Iran?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post is offensive.  Are we in Iran?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Robert</title><link>http://rising.blackstar.com/will-photographing-same-sex-unions-hurt-or-help-your-wedding-photography-busi.html/comment-page-2#comment-59621</link> <dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2011 10:54:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">#comment-59621</guid> <description>And telling a potential client why you will not accept their business shows honesty and backbone.I have no problem with what you do at home, I have several homosexual friends, I accept them for who they are.But I do not have to accept that homosexuality is not a sin.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And telling a potential client why you will not accept their business shows honesty and backbone.</p><p>I have no problem with what you do at home, I have several homosexual friends, I accept them for who they are.</p><p>But I do not have to accept that homosexuality is not a sin.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Robert</title><link>http://rising.blackstar.com/will-photographing-same-sex-unions-hurt-or-help-your-wedding-photography-busi.html/comment-page-2#comment-59620</link> <dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2011 10:48:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">#comment-59620</guid> <description>As long as your business IS NOT publicly traded, you are allowed to choose who your clients are.Think about it this way:
What if I called a restaurant that only does vegan and asked them to cater an event; Oh, and by the way, we&#039;d like veal. Then sue them when they protested and refused to cater the event?Or trying to hire a model agency that is in full support of PETA, then telling them that they will be modeling real fur coats?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as your business IS NOT publicly traded, you are allowed to choose who your clients are.</p><p>Think about it this way:<br
/> What if I called a restaurant that only does vegan and asked them to cater an event; Oh, and by the way, we'd like veal. Then sue them when they protested and refused to cater the event?</p><p>Or trying to hire a model agency that is in full support of PETA, then telling them that they will be modeling real fur coats?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Frank</title><link>http://rising.blackstar.com/will-photographing-same-sex-unions-hurt-or-help-your-wedding-photography-busi.html/comment-page-1#comment-15663</link> <dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 11:37:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">#comment-15663</guid> <description>@Redheaded Ninja:
1)  Having a religious conviction against something and being required to violate that conviction would be the case in both situations.
2)  Having a religious conviction is not the same thing as a &quot;want to do&quot;.  You are bound by a higher authority in the first one.I do not live in a state that has gay marriage, so I do not have to personally deal with that situation at this time;  I&#039;m sure there will be a time when I will need to, but I haven&#039;t figured out everything in life yet.I know I didn&#039;t have anything to do with that fireman, but I feel the need to apologize on his behalf.  This world could use a lot more tactful people, regardless of what they believe.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Redheaded Ninja:<br
/> 1)  Having a religious conviction against something and being required to violate that conviction would be the case in both situations.<br
/> 2)  Having a religious conviction is not the same thing as a "want to do".  You are bound by a higher authority in the first one.</p><p>I do not live in a state that has gay marriage, so I do not have to personally deal with that situation at this time;  I'm sure there will be a time when I will need to, but I haven't figured out everything in life yet.</p><p> I know I didn't have anything to do with that fireman, but I feel the need to apologize on his behalf.  This world could use a lot more tactful people, regardless of what they believe.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Redheaded Ninja</title><link>http://rising.blackstar.com/will-photographing-same-sex-unions-hurt-or-help-your-wedding-photography-busi.html/comment-page-1#comment-15650</link> <dc:creator>Redheaded Ninja</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 00:15:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">#comment-15650</guid> <description>@Neil,
Who&#039;s declared war???</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Neil,<br
/> Who's declared war???</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Redheaded Ninja</title><link>http://rising.blackstar.com/will-photographing-same-sex-unions-hurt-or-help-your-wedding-photography-busi.html/comment-page-1#comment-15648</link> <dc:creator>Redheaded Ninja</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 00:05:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">#comment-15648</guid> <description>@Frank,
Forcing a Hindu to serve beef is NOT the same thing as photographing a gay wedding. For one thing, nobody is dying.I agree that no one should be forced to serve a client they don&#039;t want to. In my previous life as a Studio Manager, I severed relationships with clients that were abusive, rowdy, stole, etc. I don&#039;t believe anyone should be forced to do anything they don&#039;t want to do. Likewise, no one should be kept from doing what they want to do if it hurts no one else... especially if it makes them very happy! Marrying your love hurts no one. Being a jerk to a complete stranger hurts them. Who is really in the wrong here?If you disapprove, definitely do not do it. You aren&#039;t doing any service to the couple by taking a gig you have a problem with. Their images are much too precious for you to capture. But please... don&#039;t turn away gay weddings because you are scared of what other people will think!By the way, what do you tell a potential client when it becomes painfully obvious they will be a problem? &quot;Sorry, I do not photograph weddings for people that I know will be a problem?&quot; I think you probably say something else - like maybe you just booked that day. I think that&#039;s the way to go in any situation that you feel is a bad fit.When I was in labor with my third child, I had some complications and my midwife decided that I should be transported to the hospital as a precaution. My 4-year old daughter was present for her sister&#039;s home birth a year ago, and was very excited to met her baby brother. The firemen arrived at my home first and I said to my 4 year old daughter, &quot;I&#039;m sorry you won&#039;t get to see your baby brother come out.&quot; One of the young firemen who obviously disapproved then said, &quot;I&#039;m not.&quot; Way to ruin one of the most beautiful moments of my life. I could have punched that guy right in the face. If you have a problem with women in labor, don&#039;t be a fireman! The IRS is always hiring...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Frank,<br
/> Forcing a Hindu to serve beef is NOT the same thing as photographing a gay wedding. For one thing, nobody is dying.</p><p>I agree that no one should be forced to serve a client they don't want to. In my previous life as a Studio Manager, I severed relationships with clients that were abusive, rowdy, stole, etc. I don't believe anyone should be forced to do anything they don't want to do. Likewise, no one should be kept from doing what they want to do if it hurts no one else... especially if it makes them very happy! Marrying your love hurts no one. Being a jerk to a complete stranger hurts them. Who is really in the wrong here?</p><p>If you disapprove, definitely do not do it. You aren't doing any service to the couple by taking a gig you have a problem with. Their images are much too precious for you to capture. But please... don't turn away gay weddings because you are scared of what other people will think!</p><p>By the way, what do you tell a potential client when it becomes painfully obvious they will be a problem? "Sorry, I do not photograph weddings for people that I know will be a problem?" I think you probably say something else - like maybe you just booked that day. I think that's the way to go in any situation that you feel is a bad fit.</p><p>When I was in labor with my third child, I had some complications and my midwife decided that I should be transported to the hospital as a precaution. My 4-year old daughter was present for her sister's home birth a year ago, and was very excited to met her baby brother. The firemen arrived at my home first and I said to my 4 year old daughter, "I'm sorry you won't get to see your baby brother come out." One of the young firemen who obviously disapproved then said, "I'm not." Way to ruin one of the most beautiful moments of my life. I could have punched that guy right in the face. If you have a problem with women in labor, don't be a fireman! The IRS is always hiring...</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Redheaded Ninja</title><link>http://rising.blackstar.com/will-photographing-same-sex-unions-hurt-or-help-your-wedding-photography-busi.html/comment-page-1#comment-15647</link> <dc:creator>Redheaded Ninja</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 23:37:13 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">#comment-15647</guid> <description>Sean,
I appreciate your honesty, but I just don&#039;t get what the hesitation is about. Photographers document. Go to Pulitzer.org and check out the images there. Imagine if the winning photographers worried about upsetting someone by taking those pictures. Remember why you chose this profession, why photographs are important. It&#039;s a privilege. Bring on the gays! ;D</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean,<br
/> I appreciate your honesty, but I just don't get what the hesitation is about. Photographers document. Go to Pulitzer.org and check out the images there. Imagine if the winning photographers worried about upsetting someone by taking those pictures. Remember why you chose this profession, why photographs are important. It's a privilege. Bring on the gays! ;D</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: EM</title><link>http://rising.blackstar.com/will-photographing-same-sex-unions-hurt-or-help-your-wedding-photography-busi.html/comment-page-1#comment-15217</link> <dc:creator>EM</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 19:14:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">#comment-15217</guid> <description>Well said, Gardner Hamilton.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, Gardner Hamilton.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Neil</title><link>http://rising.blackstar.com/will-photographing-same-sex-unions-hurt-or-help-your-wedding-photography-busi.html/comment-page-1#comment-13123</link> <dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:56:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">#comment-13123</guid> <description>@Gardner Hamilton.
No.
A marriage is a union between a man and a woman, not a man and his pet, a man and his sister or a man and another man or a woman and another woman.
Would you photograph a wedding where a man was marrying his daughter?
If not, why not? Love is love, right?I also will not ever photograph such &#039;weddings&#039;. If I&#039;m sued it will bankrupt me. I will shutter my business and tell every couple that loses their deposit where their money went.They have declared war. Time to get off the fence and be counted.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Gardner Hamilton.<br
/> No.<br
/> A marriage is a union between a man and a woman, not a man and his pet, a man and his sister or a man and another man or a woman and another woman.<br
/> Would you photograph a wedding where a man was marrying his daughter?<br
/> If not, why not? Love is love, right?</p><p>I also will not ever photograph such 'weddings'. If I'm sued it will bankrupt me. I will shutter my business and tell every couple that loses their deposit where their money went.</p><p>They have declared war. Time to get off the fence and be counted.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Gardner Hamiilton</title><link>http://rising.blackstar.com/will-photographing-same-sex-unions-hurt-or-help-your-wedding-photography-busi.html/comment-page-1#comment-12531</link> <dc:creator>Gardner Hamiilton</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 01:22:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">#comment-12531</guid> <description>As a WEDDING Photographer for over 20 years i think the job is exactly as stated...photographer of weddings....since the event is all about capturing the love and the event it should not matter if it is a chicken marrying monkey...love is love  .....no?
I have in the past worked same sex weddings and there some of the most passionate and sincere events I have ever photographed..i am not gay...i am not religious...i am a human living on planet earth with other humans. If a client chooses not to do business with me because I photographes a same sex event 8 years ago then chances are I would not want that person as a client anyways</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a WEDDING Photographer for over 20 years i think the job is exactly as stated...photographer of weddings....since the event is all about capturing the love and the event it should not matter if it is a chicken marrying monkey...love is love  .....no?<br
/> I have in the past worked same sex weddings and there some of the most passionate and sincere events I have ever photographed..i am not gay...i am not religious...i am a human living on planet earth with other humans. If a client chooses not to do business with me because I photographes a same sex event 8 years ago then chances are I would not want that person as a client anyways</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: EdFromOhio</title><link>http://rising.blackstar.com/will-photographing-same-sex-unions-hurt-or-help-your-wedding-photography-busi.html/comment-page-1#comment-6333</link> <dc:creator>EdFromOhio</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:49:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">#comment-6333</guid> <description>&quot;Delainy Mackie Photographer&quot; said: &quot;Unfortunately you are supporting a community of discrimination/hate.&quot;That statement is very false in this case.  There is no hate being expressed.  People are entitled to their convictions on BOTH sides of the table.  The photographer was very respectful.  The wording of the original e-mail request implied acknowledgement that Ms. Willock expected some photographers to not accept the assignment due to the sexual orientation of the couple.  Of course, that didn&#039;t stop her from becoming offended.The fact that they lost on their appeal just leaves me speechless.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Delainy Mackie Photographer" said: "Unfortunately you are supporting a community of discrimination/hate."</p><p>That statement is very false in this case.  There is no hate being expressed.  People are entitled to their convictions on BOTH sides of the table.  The photographer was very respectful.  The wording of the original e-mail request implied acknowledgement that Ms. Willock expected some photographers to not accept the assignment due to the sexual orientation of the couple.  Of course, that didn't stop her from becoming offended.</p><p>The fact that they lost on their appeal just leaves me speechless.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: EdFromOhio</title><link>http://rising.blackstar.com/will-photographing-same-sex-unions-hurt-or-help-your-wedding-photography-busi.html/comment-page-1#comment-6329</link> <dc:creator>EdFromOhio</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:59:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">#comment-6329</guid> <description>Like it or not, I will not shoot a homosexual wedding based on my personal convictions.  I don&#039;t see how that&#039;s any different than a mechanic saying they don&#039;t work on your particular brand of car.  If the State of Ohio mandates it, I will close up shop.Be glad that the photographer is expressing reservations.  The disconnect would very likely show up in the pictures.  This would give the prospective couple plenty of time to find an amicable photographer.Unless there was some signed contract and the photographer had a change of heart or just didn&#039;t show up, I don&#039;t see why this whole suit wasn&#039;t thrown out of court.  There was no agreement, so I don&#039;t see how the photographer was liable for anything at all.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like it or not, I will not shoot a homosexual wedding based on my personal convictions.  I don't see how that's any different than a mechanic saying they don't work on your particular brand of car.  If the State of Ohio mandates it, I will close up shop.</p><p>Be glad that the photographer is expressing reservations.  The disconnect would very likely show up in the pictures.  This would give the prospective couple plenty of time to find an amicable photographer.</p><p>Unless there was some signed contract and the photographer had a change of heart or just didn't show up, I don't see why this whole suit wasn't thrown out of court.  There was no agreement, so I don't see how the photographer was liable for anything at all.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Frank</title><link>http://rising.blackstar.com/will-photographing-same-sex-unions-hurt-or-help-your-wedding-photography-busi.html/comment-page-1#comment-6316</link> <dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 22:50:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">#comment-6316</guid> <description>If I am a hindu who owns a restaurant, should I be forced to serve beef?  Why should christians be forced to be a part of something they don&#039;t approve of?  I can understand issues of discrimination if the services being rendered aren&#039;t directly related to the wedding.  But for services like musicians who would be a part of the ceremony, they should be allowed protections to decline on religious grounds.  For me to be a part of a marriage ceremony that I personally do not approve of is called hypocrisy, just like a hindu who serves beef.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I am a hindu who owns a restaurant, should I be forced to serve beef?  Why should christians be forced to be a part of something they don't approve of?  I can understand issues of discrimination if the services being rendered aren't directly related to the wedding.  But for services like musicians who would be a part of the ceremony, they should be allowed protections to decline on religious grounds.  For me to be a part of a marriage ceremony that I personally do not approve of is called hypocrisy, just like a hindu who serves beef.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Delainy Mackie Photographer</title><link>http://rising.blackstar.com/will-photographing-same-sex-unions-hurt-or-help-your-wedding-photography-busi.html/comment-page-1#comment-5625</link> <dc:creator>Delainy Mackie Photographer</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 19:26:08 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">#comment-5625</guid> <description>Unfortunately you are supporting a community of discrimination/hate. Something, we as a world have been trying to conquer for decades. The more you support it the longer it goes on.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately you are supporting a community of discrimination/hate. Something, we as a world have been trying to conquer for decades. The more you support it the longer it goes on.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: jackie</title><link>http://rising.blackstar.com/will-photographing-same-sex-unions-hurt-or-help-your-wedding-photography-busi.html/comment-page-1#comment-5081</link> <dc:creator>jackie</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 02:24:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">#comment-5081</guid> <description>this is lame.  no one should tell anyone else who to photograph or not.  i don&#039;t make you drink, i don&#039;t make you dance, hey, i don&#039;t make you take drugs, you do that on your own.  i don&#039;t tell you to go to seller&#039;s bro&#039;s when walmart is cheaper.  i don&#039;t tell you to buy gas at valero when shell is more better.  so, in that same way, you don&#039;t tell me who to take pictures of.  those gays are just so vain and didn&#039;t know what to do, they are so bored that they decided to just persecute this lady for what she believes.  read the bible people, gays are so wrong, their reward is imminent</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is lame.  no one should tell anyone else who to photograph or not.  i don't make you drink, i don't make you dance, hey, i don't make you take drugs, you do that on your own.  i don't tell you to go to seller's bro's when walmart is cheaper.  i don't tell you to buy gas at valero when shell is more better.  so, in that same way, you don't tell me who to take pictures of.  those gays are just so vain and didn't know what to do, they are so bored that they decided to just persecute this lady for what she believes.  read the bible people, gays are so wrong, their reward is imminent</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Pick of the Thicket 6.17.08 &#171; Media Orchard</title><link>http://rising.blackstar.com/will-photographing-same-sex-unions-hurt-or-help-your-wedding-photography-busi.html/comment-page-1#comment-4631</link> <dc:creator>Pick of the Thicket 6.17.08 &#171; Media Orchard</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 04:03:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">#comment-4631</guid> <description>[...] Same-sex weddings: Good for the wedding photography business? (Black Star Rising) [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Same-sex weddings: Good for the wedding photography business? (Black Star Rising) [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: kristian</title><link>http://rising.blackstar.com/will-photographing-same-sex-unions-hurt-or-help-your-wedding-photography-busi.html/comment-page-1#comment-440</link> <dc:creator>kristian</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 17:59:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">#comment-440</guid> <description>no, i would never refuse to shoot an interracial wedding.   i have shot many.   and no, i would never be afraid to put them in my portfolio.   and if people were offended because of seeing them in my portfolio, then i would be just fine with that.   i know it won&#039;t hurt my business or profit one bit. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no, i would never refuse to shoot an interracial wedding.   i have shot many.   and no, i would never be afraid to put them in my portfolio.   and if people were offended because of seeing them in my portfolio, then i would be just fine with that.   i know it won't hurt my business or profit one bit.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Scott Aitken</title><link>http://rising.blackstar.com/will-photographing-same-sex-unions-hurt-or-help-your-wedding-photography-busi.html/comment-page-1#comment-439</link> <dc:creator>Scott Aitken</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:22:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">#comment-439</guid> <description>Would you refuse to shoot an interracial wedding? If you did shoot an interracial wedding, would you be afraid to put the photos in your portfolio? Or would you put them in a separate portfolio?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would you refuse to shoot an interracial wedding? If you did shoot an interracial wedding, would you be afraid to put the photos in your portfolio? Or would you put them in a separate portfolio?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: kristian</title><link>http://rising.blackstar.com/will-photographing-same-sex-unions-hurt-or-help-your-wedding-photography-busi.html/comment-page-1#comment-438</link> <dc:creator>kristian</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:22:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">#comment-438</guid> <description>thom, the answer to that is quite simple.   you contract another photographer to photograph the wedding for you.  the  wedding couple is still hiring your business (which doesn&#039;t guarantee them a particular photographer, but it usually guarantees a certain level of quality and similar style).    you hire another photographer to photograph the event.   you can even contract other companies to do the editing and all other post-production.   its actually much easier than you think. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thom, the answer to that is quite simple.   you contract another photographer to photograph the wedding for you.  the  wedding couple is still hiring your business (which doesn't guarantee them a particular photographer, but it usually guarantees a certain level of quality and similar style).    you hire another photographer to photograph the event.   you can even contract other companies to do the editing and all other post-production.   its actually much easier than you think.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Thom</title><link>http://rising.blackstar.com/will-photographing-same-sex-unions-hurt-or-help-your-wedding-photography-busi.html/comment-page-1#comment-437</link> <dc:creator>Thom</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:22:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">#comment-437</guid> <description>Kristian said: &quot;as a person they may not agree based on their own personal religious beliefs, but WHEN YOU ARE RUNNING A BUSINESS, you do not have this right AS A BUSINESS.&quot;I&#039;m not a photographer, but we have clients where I work where some people opt out of working on the client because they are morally or religiously opposed. I, for example, refuse to work on our lottery account. A designer we had didn&#039;t feel comfortable working for a business that catered to very progressive causes. If we didn&#039;t have such a diverse staff, we might&#039;ve had to turn down those clients simply due to a lack of employees who would work on them.So... if I&#039;m a studio owner, and someone comes to me to shoot a same-sex wedding, but none of my photographers are willing to do it, what would be my business&#039; obligation under the law to serve them? </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kristian said: "as a person they may not agree based on their own personal religious beliefs, but WHEN YOU ARE RUNNING A BUSINESS, you do not have this right AS A BUSINESS."</p><p>I'm not a photographer, but we have clients where I work where some people opt out of working on the client because they are morally or religiously opposed. I, for example, refuse to work on our lottery account. A designer we had didn't feel comfortable working for a business that catered to very progressive causes. If we didn't have such a diverse staff, we might've had to turn down those clients simply due to a lack of employees who would work on them.</p><p>So... if I'm a studio owner, and someone comes to me to shoot a same-sex wedding, but none of my photographers are willing to do it, what would be my business' obligation under the law to serve them?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: kristian</title><link>http://rising.blackstar.com/will-photographing-same-sex-unions-hurt-or-help-your-wedding-photography-busi.html/comment-page-1#comment-436</link> <dc:creator>kristian</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 00:41:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">#comment-436</guid> <description>@ radmilaradmila said &quot;...the rights of the owners of the studio (their religious belief) were not respected. &quot;the studio is a business.  unless that business is a church, they have no religious beliefs as a business.  you need to understand the difference between personal rights and business rights.   its a BIG difference.  unless a business is a church, they don&#039;t have religious beliefs in the eyes of the law, therefore there are no religious beliefs to be respected in this case.   this is a very important thing that needs to be understood.   as a person they may not agree based on their own personal religious beliefs, but WHEN YOU ARE RUNNING A BUSINESS, you do not have this right AS A BUSINESS.   this particular business owner was unaware of the difference and that is their own fault.   not all business owners are smart business owners.  it is what it is. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ radmila</p><p>radmila said "...the rights of the owners of the studio (their religious belief) were not respected. "</p><p>the studio is a business.  unless that business is a church, they have no religious beliefs as a business.  you need to understand the difference between personal rights and business rights.   its a BIG difference.  unless a business is a church, they don't have religious beliefs in the eyes of the law, therefore there are no religious beliefs to be respected in this case.   this is a very important thing that needs to be understood.   as a person they may not agree based on their own personal religious beliefs, but WHEN YOU ARE RUNNING A BUSINESS, you do not have this right AS A BUSINESS.   this particular business owner was unaware of the difference and that is their own fault.   not all business owners are smart business owners.  it is what it is.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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